Paladins in Cataclysm

Posted on July 28, 2010 by admin

With the new expansion, every tree of every class will change. Since I’ve played with every spec paladins can have, I thought I’d give it a go about the current design.

First of all, I’m checking Wowhead talents with the latest (at this point) beta build (12604, if the latest blog entry at this point is correct.)

There is one point I’d like to say before anything else: There is a new mechanic going in, the Holy Power, which increases the potency of some spells, which I can’t say a word yet since I don’t have a beta key or anything. So all this is based on talents alone, not some serious, big picture, view. Also, I’m not taking in account the skills we have.

Holy

The current holy tree is… the same we have right now. You have Beacon, you have the PvP talents… and that’s it. Basically, the talents that, right now, give you more healing are gone and the boring ones are there. Which is kinda sad, ’cause the holy tree when the first open beta came out had a lot of talents that would cast judgements as a reaction to your spells (for example, one talent that is now gone would cast a judgement when you used Cleanse — which would be a real bitch against rogues stunning while vanished, since you’d cast a judgement at them when dispelling the stun.)

On the other hand, the talents themselves tell a lot about the skills we’ll have: A cone healing (“Light of Dawn”), Word of Light (that, from what I read somewhere, it’s a heal over time that uses Holy Power) and Divine Light (which seems it will be a bigger Holy Light.)

The weird things, in the PvE way, is the Art of War-like talent “Denounce”, which looks a lot like a PvP talent or a leveling talent. And I’m all against leveling talents, since you have them and then, when you reach max level, you have to pay to respec and make them go away.

To sum up about holy: We have more skills, but our talents are almost the same as now.

Protection

Still the same. I’m kinda confused by why Reckoning is still there. I mean, it was always considered a filler talent and highly discussed if it was worth having it. I remember changing to prot at level 50-something and thinking it was the coolest thing ever (at the time, I was just still leveling, so I had absolutely no idea what threat meant.) And I’m guessing its points will still be worth some discussion about theorycraft and such.

One thing the caught my eye right out of the bat is that Sanctuary seems to be a passive Blessing of Sanctuary. So we don’t have to cast it anymore.

Ardent Defender now is castable and not passive anymore, which means we’ll have to keep an eye on our health and be ready to press a button when we are close to death and we are pretty sure the healer won’t be able to bring us back, since we don’t want to be locked out in the cooldown when things looks bad again.

And it seems now we have 2 AoE spells: Consecration, with a longer time, and Holy Wrath, which will hit everything (and critically hit undead, demons and it seems elementals get in too.) So one slow threat building spell and a mobile one.

Another weird thing is the tooltip for Guarded by the Light: It says it will reduce the mana cost of Divine Plea in 100%. So our mana recovery spell now will be free? It is just me or that doesn’t make sense? Either that or Divine Plea will change completely.

To sum protection: We are still the same. I still feel that we have a very boring rotation because we are not reactive. The only difference is that now we’ll have a rotation for mobs and a rotation for single target.

Retribution

It’s broken right now: When you chose Holy, you get Holy Shock as the signature skill; Crusade, tier-1 talent, increases the healing and damage of holy shock. But let’s keep going, just for the sake of it.

Again, looking over it, it is the same spec, without the boring things. Retribution finally got a real interrupt with Rebuke, which locks people out of the magic school for 4 seconds.

Another change is that now Pursuit of Justice also increases the mount speed which it’s kinda weird when you realize we have Crusader Aura. Or maybe it means Crusader Aura is gone? If so, going to ret will be kinda required by all the other trees.

To sum retribution: The same.

General view

In a way, just looking at our talents, paladins are still kinda the same we are right now. Blizzard said we would get a lot of redesign but, over the surface, I feel we still are the same. Of course, this is not including the new skills, which are the real change here.

One thing I noticed is that it is really hard to find good talents. I usually had to return to the lower tiers to find fillers to be able to get talents in the last tier. I really thought the idea was to remove the boring, filler talents and add interesting ones. The problem is that I really see some talents as pure PvP and, thus, not interesting in PvE and others that are plain rubbish.

I really hope the weird description of Crusade points that there will be another good iteration of the talents. ‘Cause we really need some nice review to remove the boring talents.

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The real “quit” factor

Posted on July 28, 2010 by admin

A lot have been said about RealID, how it’s a breach of user privacy and, most of the time, that people are quitting WoW because of that.

I believe that, deep down, the problem is not a privacy concern, but it’s the cherry on the top of a greater dissatisfaction about WoW.

Do you remember how it was when you started playing WoW? Do you remember how it was to run mindlessly around, just getting quests and killing stuff? Do you remember how it was to put a point on a talent just to see how worked? Do you remember playing one spec for a long time and then just doing a respec just to see how the other talents worked?

The end game offers nothing like the experience of experimenting. You want to tank? Here is your spec. DPS? Use this spec or you’re a noob. Top the healing meters or you suck as a healer. And then, when you fix everything, be here every week to join the guild run on the latest raid or we’ll talk about you on your back.

The continual repetition of dungeons and raids and nothing new to try, people feeling burned… it all accounts to the dissatisfaction of playing the game. But that’s expected, you know things will get to that when you reach the end game and it will the constant run for better gear or higher achievements.

But then the prospect of some weird thing that people say it’s a privacy concern and then you have the perfect excuse to quit the game (or, at least, give it some time.)

People that enjoy constantly running for the new gear or don’t feel guilty staying away for a week really don’t mind the RealID issue at all.

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Playing the Devil’s Advocate in the ReadlID issue

Posted on July 27, 2010 by admin

When Blizzard announced that the forums would display the user real name, a lot of people got upset about this. Blizzard claimed it would reduce the trolling and people claimed it would expose their privacy.

One thing I would like to point, before anything, is that your privacy is already being exposed with the implementation of RealID (and not the forum changes) ’cause your real name appears there already (and you have to give your email anyway.) This is a real annoyance of me: If it wasn’t the forum changes, it seems nobody would complain about this thing.

But a more privacy focused view of the forum changes was posted in the metafilter forums, by Nattie. I can’t really see any huge flaws in her (I’m supposing it’s a “her”) reasoning, but some things really made me think that the idea behind RealID is actually exactly the opposite of what she pointed.

It’s already easy to link WoW characters to their real life players.: She points that it’s really hard, but it’s not the fact that it’s not the forums that would make easy to find the real you: it’s the RealID. You have your account name and your email there already, anyone can find you. And even if you tell them just your email, that would be enough.

People won’t actually harass other people outside the game, come on.: Honestly, I believe that who would harass you inside the game, would harass you over any other media, but not in the real life. If you get a troll sending you emails, just add a filter to ignore them.

On the other hand, the dangerous ones that would take things to the real life, just sue the hell of them. I had a guy calling me a “spic” inside the game. Unfortunately, I didn’t had the spirit of mind to take a screenshot and send it to a GM. But, in the real life, I could sue them for racism and then them would have a real problem. It’s not his account that would be canceled, it would be the burden of having a process over his back.

If you’re worried about someone from WoW finding you on Facebook, then why are you even on Facebook?: Personally, I never had anyone saying that “Wow is lame, Facebook is cool”. Maybe they are, maybe it’s the other way around. The point from Blizzard seems to improve the “MM” in “MMORPG”: If you know someone on Facebook and never really mentioned that you play WoW (and the other way around), you may find that you have way more in common than you first thought. Who knows, maybe you two are even playing in the same server…

There are, of course, the problems: Say, your best friend finds out that you play Horde in the same server he/she plays Alliance, where they are outnumbered and can’t do anything without being ganked all the time.

The reasoning also be that Blizzard wants to take WoW out of the internet ghetto. Some people still see WoW as a bad thing. If suddenly you notice that your nice friends from Facebook are WoW players, maybe you would change the way they see it.

1. Girls are going to get harassed more than they already do.: I understand her point, but I also wonder how many girls have to hide that fact to because they are worried about being harassed. Who knows, maybe when we know the real number of girls playing, the stalkers will go away. You see, if you are a needy guy and you see just one girl, then suddenly, she’s the one; but if you’re the same guy and you are around a bunch of girls, things change completely.

2. Minorities will get harassed.: Honestly, I think this is going a bit too far. You play with a guy, he’s an awesome healer, the even gave you tips on how to improve your DPS in a nice way… Then you go check his Facebook and he’s black. So what? When you finally realize that the nicest guy you ever had the pleasure to play is actually part of a minority, why that wouldn’t change the way you see that minority?

Stereotypes and prejudice come from what we don’t know. Once you realize that the people don’t fit the stereotype, you have to rethink your prejudice.

3. You don’t have to be a troll to not want your name attached to your posts. There is still a bit of a gaming stigma, and there is an especially strong WoW stigma.: Again, this is what Blizzard may try to remove: The idea that WoW is a ghetto. If your nice friends play WoW, why would WoW be bad?

Of course, it could also back-fire: What if all your annoying friends are WoW players?

4. A lot of parents are going to have their teenager’s posts linked to their name because their name is on the account.: Ok, you know what? About this, I have only one thing to say: boo-fucking-woo. You know that your name is attached to a forum and 1) won’t check if your kid is doing with it, 2) won’t teach your kid that he/she can’t abuse because it’s your name and 3) if even after telling that he/she abuses it, you better then finally take him/her aside and finally tell him about what “respect” means instead of leting their friends do your job.

In all honestly, when I thought about how to be the devil’s advocate about this, I really got pissed. Nattie points that, basically, you’re screwed because you failed as a parent, which, in this case, it’s true. If your kid don’t know how to respect strangers, you failed raising them with proper values.

5. People who don’t play WoW will get harassed or have WoW associated with them if someone else with the same name posts on the WoW forums.: Email is attached, remember? And even if you have the same name of another gamer, a simple search would return other results.

The sense of “with my name, they can find everything about me” is a little absurd, to be honest. It’s not like you simply type someone’s name on Google and it shows your social security number on the first page. It’s not that simple. You have to really want to search someone’s name, keep track of several different usernames they use everywhere and so on. And every social network out there have an option to show your information just to your friends. If you do that, search engines will not track you and it will be a hell of time to track you without leaving tracks behind.

Which is just another thing: If you’re so worried about people finding things about you with your name appearing on the forums, just change your preferences on whatever social network you have your profile to be visible only to friends. Being worried about Forums and leaving your profile wide open just doesn’t make any sense.

6. If you’re able to easily lie about your name in the forums to get out of privacy concerns, that just opens another can of worms.: There is a small nag (even for a devil’s advocate) with the RealID thing (although I never had to use it): If you have any problem with your payments or your account get hacked, you have to provide a real id (like, in the real world) that have the same name you have in your account; if you lie about your name to avoid it to appear in the forums, you have no way to prove that you are the owner of that account. On the other hand, things like an authenticator, keeping your anti-virus up-to-date, having a good adblocker and such are basic things you can do to avoid being hacked.

7. It probably won’t do that much to stop trolling.: Maybe, who knows. Thing is: We’ll never know if, with the forum changes, “trolltroll” will stop posting inflammatory content now that “Joseph Amrite” appears in the forum.

8. There is a better solution.: Showing all characters? Is that really a better solution? So, what if I fill my 50 character quota? Will it display every one of them in the forum posts? The forums would, soon, be a mess bigger than it is right now because the trolls would do such thing just to annoy everyone that tries to read the forums (after all, that’s what they want.)

Also, when you’re playing and suddenly you see a character’s name that you don’t know, because your friend just created another alt and instead of showing his name on WoW, it shows the new character name, you’d delete it, thinking it’s a hack (and, effectively, removing your friends from your friends list.)

Which, again, it’s the real problem about RealID: Your WoW friends already know your name and your email. Just think about that.

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Loremaster!

Posted on July 20, 2010 by admin

After running up and down, trying to find whoever had a yellow “!” over their heads, I finally completed everything I needed for this:

Loremaster

Yes, finally, Loremaster. Finally, all 685 quests in Kalimdor, the last achievement required for the meta-achievement, were completed. For that, I have to thank Wowhead and their quest tracking in the profiles. I tried Everquest (or whatever the name) and Carbonite and none of the were so complete as Wowhead (not to mention, the comments from other users.)

Not that I really enjoyed the experience: Because I had quest chains completed half-way and was running around trying to find the easiest to find quests, I couldn’t really follow what story was being told. It is interesting that you can find what it is going on using the Wowhead comments, but apart from that, there is very little you can get by doing the quests the way I had to do them.

Anyway… Loremaster!

And, in the end, I also got this:

25 tabards

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RealID and WoW forums

Posted on July 8, 2010 by admin

Recently, Blizzard announced that the World of Warcraft Forums would display the user real name instead of one of his/her character name.

I have mixed feelings about this.

First of all, it may finally ends the huge amount of trolling in the servers, specially in the Realm forums. Trolling, the act of posting wrong or inflammatory messages just to annoy/provoke people, happens with a certain frequency in the forums. I can remember going to the Dreadmaul forums and being greeted with insults directed to certain characters (due arena battles, random PvP and the such.) Sometimes, the user would log with his/her main character, giving a “face” to the post, or using a random alt in low level to avoid any retaliation inside the game. The current system is so bad the user can roll a bunch of low level characters and keep posting comments in a thread non-stop, in a way that people may now easily recognize it’s all the same person trying to make his point valid by numbers.

At the same time, when people post something realizing that it will be available to the whole internet with their real name, they name tone down their words. Instead of a “U suck cock”, they may come with a more detailed information about why he’s annoyed with the other person in the first time.

On the other hand, it may be a problem for privacy, since there is no control about it. Not that I see a direct problem with it: My WoW blog is linked to my name (look the URL), I comment WoW on my Twitter account and, really, I don’t worry about people finding that I play WoW. If the fact that I play WoW with a Paladin, a tank, that I try to learn the internals of the class and the general game mechanics is seen as a bad thing from someone… well, that’s their problem. I like to understand who things work and I try to share what I know. Is that bad?

As a developer, though, I can understand why the real name is going to be used instead of a character name: The forums will be linked to the account, not the game anymore. They will take the same forum software, point to a single database and avoid the forum software touch the game database. It will make things easier to manage in their side and probably save some space. And that’s why they are pointing over and over again that it will be a new forum.

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Guildless

Posted on November 21, 2009 by thorianar

Since last Thursday, I’m guildless.

Everything started with one guildie posting some Ulduar achievements for 10 mans in gchat. Then another guildie, who was playing with his priest, logged out, came back with his death knight and start pasting every single 25 man achievement he had.

Although I’m an achievement runner/whore, I don’t link every single “hard to get” achievement in gchat (including my What A Long, Strange Trip It’s Been, which takes a lot of work for about a year) ’cause I really don’t think it means a lot. They don’t represent anything, when you go down to it; it’s almost the same as topping the Recount chart: Yes, you did a lot of damage, but you sit on fire and give the healers a hard time ’cause they had to heal the tanks and the top DPS which forgot fire hurts. Gratz on topping the damage and the retarded charts at the same time!

And then there are the 25 man achievements. It’s even sillier ’cause one of the top guilds in the server is actually offering achievements (including hard modes) for like 5000 gold. You don’t even have to join the fight, just sit there and watch them do the hard work.

But then, it comes this DK (why, oh why, it always have to be a damn death knight?) boasting his 25 man achievements like he was awesome. And that just one week after we tried Trial of the Grand Crusader (the 10 man version) and he died more than once trying to melee infernals while they were casting Fel Inferno. And when I mentioned that to him he came with “oh, maybe they casted after I go there.” Not like you can’t see the Infernals flying around before casting the Inferno…

So yeah, I was pissed that he was pointing his achievements like he was good.

Thorianar: My e-peen is bigger than your e-peen. Now shut up.
Thawn: Or what?

Dammit, wanna play the thought guy?

Thorianar: < -- officer
Thawn: And?
Thorianar: And then I can /gkick.
Thorianar: And you'll lose all your PR.
Thawn: Do it. I won't come back.

Oh god, now you’re sooooo good that people may want you back? At the time, I checked his PR. As usual, bad ’cause well, “he’s too good to join guild runs”, right?

Thorianar: Fuck you retards
Thorianar have left the guild.

Yes, I was pissed. Yes, I was aggressive. But I had to choice to fuck up someone’s PR or my PR. In the end, I chose mine.

I reckon I had issues with that DK before. On that Trial of the Grand Crusader run, when we were recruiting guildies to join us, he got in the raid. He was in Dalaran. We start moving to the Argent Grounds and he moved to… Orgrimmar. So mister Princess there now needs a summon. And, of course, he has to be the last one to be summoned ’cause he’s busy. So, whole raid waiting for whatever is important, summon come and he’s asks for me to cut some gems for him. Great, he comes to a raid with ungemmed gear! When I asked if his gear is ungemmed he answers “It’s for my other spec”. Delay a raid, then delay some more for some gear he won’t be using for this run. In a way, I think he was just using this to make some gold ’cause I do free cuts for the guild.

Meh, fuck death knights. Blizzard ruined the game in more ways then they can imagine adding them.

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How do I tank?

Posted on November 6, 2009 by thorianar

Found this FAQ-like questionnaire in Righteous Defense and decided to follow along.

What is the name, class, and spec of your primary tank?

Thorianar, paladin, protection. I used to be Taladan for a long time in another server, but had to change in a server transfer.

What is your usual tanking environment?

Almost everywhere. I do the Heroic daily with guildies, join the weekly ToC10 and Ony10 with the guild and pug ToC25 and Ony25. I completely refuse to to Ulduar, in any form.

What is your favorite encounter to tank, and why?

Depends on my mood. If I feel lazy, Twin Valkyrs is a good one, ’cause I can sit there and just do my rotation (while avoiding the orbs); if I feel adventurous, Onyxia, mostly ’cause it requires everyone to watch what it’s happening to me, I have to keep an eye on whelps, guardians and Onyxia health (when she lands.)

But, besides any mood I may have, Thaddius still is my favourite encounter of all time, no matter what spec. The first time I did that, I was in retribution spec and, even today, as protection, I find it a very fun encounter ’cause it requires your whole raid to act as a single entity, moving from side to side depending on the debuffs.

What is your least favorite encounter to tank, and why?

I can’t remember a single encounter I don’t like, but I’d say any Ulduar encounter. Just because I hate that place.

What do you think is the biggest strength of your class, and why?

For what I noticed, I think the biggest strength paladins have right now is the highest EH compared to other classes.

What do you think is the biggest weakness of your class, and why?

The rotation. I mean, there is nothing wrong with it, but we are hardly a “reactive” class. Even retribution is reactive (Art of War), but protection is a single minded thing that only needs to worry about its rotation and it’s all good. DKs have Rune Strike and Warriors have Sword and Board (which gives them the chance to cast Shield Slam with no cost.)

In a 25 man raiding environment, what do you feel is the best tanking assignment for you?

Again, it depends on my mood. But, considering that paladins are kings of AoE threat built, it’s probably getting the adds while other class tanks the boss.

What tanking class do you enjoy tanking with the most?

So far, I only know how to tank as a paladin. I read some stuff about warriors and a bit about DKs, but never really tried to level one and give it a go (although I’m seriously thinking about leveling a warrior to make it a tank after my priest reaches level 80.)

What tanking class do you enjoy tanking with the least?

No idea yet. As the original poster, “see previous question.”

What is your worst habit as a tank?

On the paladin rotation, the Holy Shield spell should be one of the first spells to be cast. The way I do the rotation, it’s the last (in my defense, I do this for rapid threat building, when the DPS goes crazy over a mob to make their recounts look good, so threat first, survivability last.)

What is your biggest pet peeve in a group environment while tanking?

Pullers. You know, those guys that feel a bit bored and are incompetent enough to not roll a tank but like to pull mobs for the giggles. I had every single role doing that (even healers!)

Do you feel your class/spec is balanced with respect to the other tanking classes?

Balanced in the way of “if you know your class”, then yes. The biggest problem with the paladin tanks, right now, it’s the low learning curve necessary. If you compare stats of mitigation of every tanking class, they are all the same. BUT (big “but”), most of the classes require more knowledge about gearing up, spec, procs and such. Paladins don’t.

What tools do you use to evaluate your own performance as a tank?

Number of people that died while I was tanking (well, before I died.)

What do you think is the biggest misconception that people have with your tanking class?

That whatever I do, it’s instant. I put consecration and BLAM! it’s instant aggro, “let’s burn this guy down.” People don’t seem to understand that Consecration is a AoE DoT, and that it builds aggro very very slowly.

What do you think is the toughest thing for new players of your class to learn about tanking?

What mitigation is. Right now, people that roll a tank worry more about total HP than mitigation abilities.

I have a guildie saying yesterday that he was happy with his 30k HP unbuffed in tanking gear. When I asked his DR: “500″.

If someone were to evaluate your tanking ability via tools like fraps, recount, and World of Logs, what tendencies would they notice?

That I put Sacred Shield last, sacrificing my survivability.

Stamina or Avoidance, and why?

I try to mix both, whenever possible. I noticed, more than once, that other paladins, with 5k more HP than me, can take, from the same mob, high spike damage. It’s fun to see that paladin boasting his 49k HP buffed while I have only 45k HP (same buffs) get 2 shot ’cause he’s a stam stacker.

Which tanking class do you understand the least?

Definitely, druids. Last night, in ToC10, with the guild leader tanking by my side with his druid, I was saying “this is a kitty gear”, “this is a bear gear” on the leather drops (we had a kitty) and he was saying “Hm… this is a good tanking gear” on things I though it was for kitties.

What addons or macros do you currently use to aid you in tanking?

So far, just Skada and Grid. Skada gives me a Threat meter and a DPS count in one single point (and I don’t need to install two addons for that, like Omem and Recount) and grid can show me if someone in the group is under attack (so I can cast Righteous Defense and save them.)

Do you strive for a balance in tanking stats, or do you stack some higher than others, and why?

I try to balance, whenever possible. I got a macro to check my parry diminishing returns and I’m going for it, trying to not sacrifice any other stats. If there is nothing I can put there, I go for stamina.

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New kid in the block

Posted on October 27, 2009 by thorianar

In PvP, I always kinda enjoyed being a holy paladin. Call me weird, but I think it’s more rewarding to help people kill than killing. Maybe ’cause I suck when attacking and healing is more of a “sit in the back and let people do the dirty job”.

But there is something about holy paladins that isn’t so good in PvP: single target healing. We have no group healing and no HoTs. And that’s a place where druids and priests are excellent.

I tried to level a druid a few times (really, a few times) but running around in bear or cat form never really compelled me. To the point that I tried (and failed) to level as Boomkin.

So considering that Jastanda is level 80 and ok-geared and I managed to replace the BoA shoulders, chest and staff, the decision for the next healer was kinda obvious: a priest. And so I finally started leveling a priest. Just for the giggles, I called her Carefactor (kinda reminds me of another priest I tried to level and called her “Caresister”).

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It comes with the class

Posted on October 27, 2009 by thorianar

About a few days already, a level 1 orc warrior called “Hordealert” is calling everyone “cowards” and that we should prove we are wrong by coming to Hellfire to prove he’s wrong, ’cause the best PvP and PvE guilds will be there. Not exactly with those words, it’s way more broken and much less understandable (and believe me, people in Trade corrected that guy a few more times till we finally managed to get the message.)

Today, in WG, we had the following conversation:

[1. General][RandomPerson] is hordealert still spamming trade?
[1. General][Me] He probably wants us to come to Hellfire so he can get his black war bear

That’s when I got a random whisper:

[From OtherRandomPerson] Why Hellfire?
[To OtherrandomPerson] That's what he's saying.
[From OtherRandomPerson] But there is a free transfer to another server?

Oh God. This guy can’t be serious.

[To OtherRandomPerson] Hellfire, Outlands dude
[From OtherRandomPerson] wow lol

That’s when I thought to myself: It’s a Death Knight. Shift-click and…

Blood Elf Death Knight.

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Changes in LFG

Posted on October 22, 2009 by thorianar

Our guild leader decided to convince some people to try the PTR, so people could get used to the new raids and instances before it goes live, even after I pointed that the raids are not open all the time. Still, he pushed a some people to do it, even with my warnings, and realized his mistake when he got about 7 people in the second group to install it.

And, in that mess, even I installed the PTR client and decided to create a premade character. Not that I’m that interested in the raids and such, but I was curious about the gear. In the 3.2 PTR, we got mid tier gear (mostly Ulduar 10); 3.3 PTR brings full Trial of the Crusader 25 gear.

But, so far, the thing that impressed me most was the LFG (Looking for Group) window. You know, that simple window with 3 options saying what you can do and 3 dungeons/raids you can choose to do.

This is how the LFG window looks on 3.2

This is how the LFG window looks on 3.2

The new window now offers a lot more: Instead of offering just the dungeons for your level (at level 80, you can’t see regular Nexus in the current LFG window in 3.2 ’cause it’s a lvl 71 dungeon), you can choose between the type of dungeons (including vanilla and Burning Crusade Dungeons) and the awesome “I’m bored, give me something to do” random dungeon. It seems it also replaces the daily heroic “Proof of Demise” quest:

The new LFG window in 3.3 (PTR)

The new LFG window in 3.3 (PTR)

I did it just once. I got the 68 gold, but no emblems of frost yet (probably ’cause they are not appearing anywhere in the game.) The second time I tried, the reward was 2 more emblems of conquest. Also, once you’re selected, a window showing who is ready and what will be your role pops up and, once the whole group is ready, you’re automatically teleported to the dungeon entrance.

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